Or, am I the proverbial kettle?
The leadership of BFN attempted to make a comment on this blog tonight. It was rejected and sent to the trash bin. I don’t know about the rest of you guys, but I am an adult. In fact, I have three adult sons now. So, I really do not relish in the idea of being lectured by the likes of a message board madam that can’t even control her own environment.
If this blog is a “gossip column” as suggested by Debbie, then exactly what is BFN? Are they trying to convince me and everyone else that everything posted on their board is checked, verified and checked again? Are they telling us to stop believing our lying eyes?
Apparently Debbie has anointed herself as the queen bee of message boards and has a need to tell the rest of the cyber world how to behave.
I’m surprised at you DEBBIE for telling me what I can and can not post on this blog! (sound familiar?)
When people push others to their limits, they might just get pushed back! Live with it!
The idiocy from all sides of this story has started to wear upon my nerves and I am not in the mood to be gentle. I don’t even know what it is supposed to be about anymore. At one time I thought it had to do with a young girl that disappeared at the end of her spring celebration. Now, I’m just not that sure.
"Just totally amazing, Mike. You have the guts to open a site and totally bash people and then do not give them the chance to make comments back to you. Yes, you have control of this site....it is a total dictatorship...TOTAL! Must make you feel proud! When these good folks are all gone, it will be interesting to see who your next victims will be. It certainly seems you find enjoyment in this," auntcindy.
Debbie – Go Back to BFN
Gagirl – Find a real job
Auntcindy – Get Real! You have not read a word I have written. You follow the “leader” and attack when called upon. You have nothing substantial to contribute to any discussion, so you attempt to belittle those that do. You are a useless cog in this wheel. Go back to BFN and your new-found love, the codetalkers.
ME, personally, yes ME, I talk to people around this crazy world and I bond with a few of them. We exchange ideas in a civilized manner and attempt to move ahead. We do just that, but it is inch by inch due to language and cultural differences. We do make headway though, while some of you undress each other across these message boards and play silly cyber-net games.
- Aunt Blabby -
"...to every action there is an equal and opposite reaction..."
Thursday, March 22, 2007
Call Me Aunt Blabby!
Posted by EasyWriter at 7:55 PM
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message board madam is the perfect term for Debbie. I thank you easywriter, your blog gave me the courage to tell what I have been afraid to tell for over a year now. Those people terrorized me with their games. I also want to thank Mitral Valve for telling what she knows and would really like to "talk" to her. I need to talk to her. Some of the things she has posted about has made me feel so relieved, especially the subject of hacking.
Debbie you and Reality know I could post so much more, dont presume to call me a liar again.
Natasha
Maybe she will read this and contact you.
I'm tired and calling it a night. Any comments will be processed in the morning. Thank you to most and get lost to the rest!
- Mike -
Very well said Easy. I only visited that site a few times when it was open and found a little too much drama for me. Most seemed to focus more on everything negative then trying to be productive.
HA HA - Great Job Mike!!! This could have been titled "Oh the Drama - Part 2". The saddest thing out of all of this, is that the BFN admin and mods and posters are just too blind to see what has happened here. It was NEVER about Natalee or her family for those TROLLS. It was about getting in good with the admin and mods for their own agenda. It reminds me of the ugly girls in high school that get a compliment and think they are "special". They just keep eating it up to boost their own egos. It is called MANIPULATION. The TROLLS are good at that and it worked. So they could "control" things. Absolutley pathetic excuses for woman to allow themselves to be used, and laughed at in this way. Yes, Debbie you and your board have become a laughing stock! Maybe you should quit spending 16 hours a day at your computer, and go outside to get some fresh air and clear your head. I guess you reap what you sow.
I used to belong to BFN, but left a long time ago along with the masses. Just got tired of the ridiculous behavior going on. For Natalee? GMAFB, it must be nice to keep saying that - but the truth is - I think we all know the REALITY of it.
I am posting this anonymous because - well because I can, and I just don't care to direct any DRAMA towards me.
BFN leadership obviously does not understand the phrase "Keep your friends close, Keep your enemies closer!"
I can say that I believe the TROLLS understand it quite well!
You may think it extreme to compare this situation to Jim Jones, Hitler, or other mind control situations, but much psychological research reveals the ease with which ordinary people can be recruited to engage in harmful behaviors against others. I believe this situation is a serious case that should be reported. The problem is that the victims are too scared to go public.
Basically Reality has brainwashed a small group into following him. On the surface, it makes no sense that they would be so inspired by him to go out and commit his dirty deeds, but mind-control strategies can make good people engage in evil. Controlling rulers often work behind-the-scenes to create alliance through the use of fear- often that fear plays upon a persons deepest emotional needs. In this case, reality has hooked gagirl by playing on her biggest fear: her fear of aging and not being a babe anymore. As long as he continues to stroke her ego, she is in his control. Reality likes to be in control. He uses this same tactic with other women at BFN- many have fallen prey to his request for photos, his compliments, and his attention. If they don't fall for the "beauty" BS, he'll work on their emotions. Robin is an obvious case for this. Through reality, she has found someone to comfort her and he denies all the claims of inappropriate sexual behavior with the others. Debbie is just a pawn; keep her ignorant of the truth and he has a whole forum for his dangerous game. This is easy to do- he controls Robin and Debbie will do whatever Robin says.
There is a lot of research on what makes a tyrant seek control; They've probably had a tough life and controlling others makes them feel big. What I see here are victims that were strong enough and wise enough to get away and refuse to adopt the tyrants' control. Whether they are ousted by external or internal forces, most controlling rulers eventually fall from power as reason takes hold among their followers.
I'm sure this will generate a lot of pms among "the group", a lot of joking about reality being a tyrant or compared to Hitler. Reality will make lots of ridiculous comments and posts to humor them and save his own dignity. However, it is as serious as I've outlined it. Mind control is the basis for all tyranny and terrorist activity. Ignore it or brush it off and it will only grow. Call it what it is- abuse.
My comments on Casanova still stand, but reading the last post, IMO, keeping Debbie from posting a reaction here (if she wishes)is not good.
He wont be ashamed to be called a tyrant, he will relish it. This is all a game for him. Ive heard him laugh about the women on his board BFN and how "all those women want to sleep with him." ;)
Natasha
MV - Debbie has her own message board and she is free to post there as much and as often as she likes.
If she had something worthwhile to say about the situation she has created, I would probably let it pass through without a problem. But, I’m not going to let her come here and lecture me, or you about what we can and can not say.
I'm shocked MV is here playing the role of "poor little me" about treatment at BFN. She sure seemed comfortable there when Gagirl and Debbie were busy protecting her bashing of the United States and Americans.
MV is a snake who took every opportunity to use any negative comment about the corruption on Aruba as her Ticket To Bash Anything AMERICAN.
Poor thing fell out of graces with Gagirl? Now there's the pot calling the kettle black.
The MV destructive comments at BFN and how they were NOT moderated is all part and parcel to what was and apparently still is WRONG with BFN's moderation. The only standards enforced is who you know and how well they like you at the moment.
Debbie is controlled by no-one, even if she takes advice and requests from Robin, Debbie is her own woman and is strong enough to make the choices she wants.
For anyone to doubt that is ludicrous and a sign they absolutely do not know who Debbie is.
I know that I witnessed Debbie ban a female poster who's posts were being badgered by Reality no matter what thread she posted on.
Hi C(asanova), Becki, LinkaK or who ever the 8:14 poster is, keep being such cowards to post anonymously. Just spit on me, if this boosts your ego, and resuces your but. I really don´t care. I know about myself that I was an honest BFN members, outspoken, that is true, but some that had no problems in admitting the flaws of the Aruban and even Dutch authorities. But also someone that protects her country, actually, my both home countries: Holland and Israel.
It is a disgrace mods let it come that far that posters were admitted to openly say out loud: "I wish Holland would never have been fried by the US in WWII". Oh no, isn´t it "just" an opinion, mods?
Aren´t we free to express our opinions? Well, I have a surprise for you: NO, we are not free to say everything we want, we are not allowed to wish other people would not have been rescued, we are not free to generalize a whole nation and call them snake pits, and scrab from every corner little pieces to discredit Holland.
It is allowed on BFN however, to start new topics on abortion, drug policy, immigration problems and other stuff happening in Holland. Threads that have no relationship to the subject of Natalee. Threads being opened just for the mere purpose of bashing Holland.
It is however not allowed to give your view on American politics, a policy that influences the rest of the world and not at its interest at the moment. Because of lies and personal interests this current American government sent until so far 3000 troops into death, for nothing, because the ME is a continent which we cannot alter. The alteration must come from within. This war was strated with no vision at all. It is not allowed to say that American political stances have put my other loved one, Israel, in great danger, for the Arab world is closing its ranks and are preparing for a major war to wipe Israel off the map, and using the Palestinian cause as a cover.
It is allowed to say though, that it is not blasphemous to compare the sacrifice of Jesus to the sacrife of your troops. As if Jesus would endorse this war. Haven´t you read your bible well, you pious Christians? It is a disgrace to say that America is the savior of the world. Doesn´t your Holy Bible say you should not worship the golden calf? You created your own golden calf, both nationally as on BFN.
Last but not least, IMO, the Jim Jones and Hitler comparison is over the top. The thought of brainwashing and control games is true.
I forgot to say: those who think they speak in the name of Debbie, they are wrong. Debbie and I have emailed privately over the last couple of days, and despite some differences, we still get along.
I respect Debbie for what she has done and despite all of you have crucified me for suggesting she should use her talenst for the NH foundation now, no bad words or accusation about this came out of her mouth. Debbie is by far the most balanced person on BFN.
Get off her back
MV I respect your opinion. However, Debbie has no talent. The NH Foundation will be nothing as it is without Debbie putting her "talents" in it.
Robin, "by choice" screwed up any chance of the foundation becoming a success.
Too many know the REAL Debbie.
"I'm shocked MV is here playing the role of "poor little me" about treatment at BFN. She sure seemed comfortable there when Gagirl and Debbie were busy protecting her bashing of the United States and Americans."
GAGIRL PROTECTING HER BASHING OF THE U.S.??? Are you serious? Did you NOT read the thread? MV was NOT bashing the U.S., she was asking that a post referencing Am soldiers compared to JESUS be removed. Lots of us AMERICANS agreed with her but were TERRIFIED of Gagirl and didn't speak up. GAGIRL is a bitch, plain and simple. She dove down MV's throat on that thread. MV didn't have a fighting chance.
Anonymous said: "I am shocked..."
If you THINK Mitral Valve is remotely Pro-American (be the slightest measure) you are definitely a BFN newbie. MV routinely went from thread to thread trashing America and Americans. In fact, back when I bothered with BFN the woman (using the term LOOSELY) loved playing off Reality's posts as the two of them bashed all things American. MV's favorite thread of attack was to say as many snotty hateful things as possible in the Support Our Troops thread where several widows and ORPHANS tried to show their respect for their DEAD loved ones. If Gagirl turned on MV patriotism was just a convenient excuse because Gagirl made a point of condoning her Hate America speeches at the time. So. Newbie, think again about MV. If you are an American, SHE is NOT your friend.
There is something I must explain here:
1) It is true Reality and I agreed on the absurd stance of the Americans. At times he was not blocked he used to tell me this in a PM. Even better, he used to write me: " watch my next post, I am going to add some fuel to the fire". So he did, on many threads. By the time it got out of hand, he quickly jumped over the fire and played the innocent boy. My quarrel with reality has nothing to do with America as such, because as a former South African citizen he really hates things that are going on in your government and he is against the ultra right wing Christians. My quarrel with him is about his behaving cowardly and his constant seeking for attention, in the semi-sexual direction. I think you all saw that by now with the Borat pics. He had the nerve to post this openly on a forum about a girl who is probably raped and killed for this overestimated phenomenon: sex! It was not only that, but he really got down the ice for showing he hurts in the groin. I never sent him pictures that were even remote like this.
2) Open your ears and listen well:
I AM HAVING A HARD JOB DEFENDING THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 24 HOURS A DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for I am almost the only one left in Europe that likes you. Wake up, and see that your ME policy failed. We are together in the war on terror, but as a part time citizen in the Middle East, I can tell you, this war was started for the wrong reasons and with no good intelligence and vision. Because of this we are in a next stage of a all out war now. I give it max 5 years, and then you will find nerve gas in your metro trains and more planes hijacked all over the world. I love America, that is why I am telling you these things. I lived for some years in SF and Palos Verdes, CA. I have many American friends, I travel almost every year to Wisconsin for the cooperation between Israeli and American cardiologists in the field of atrial fibrillation. You just get off your high horse and let´s join hands in what is really necessary: a good strategy for solving the problems of the world.
As for some other statements here: I had more than one PM´s on this issue. There are many BFN´ers that agree on that with me, but are afraid to say. My mistake was not to open a new thread earlier on this subject. I did, but it was closed down immediately. As for Becki, her name is Cain (remember, he was a killer) also B also Women in a Blue Dress. 6 or 7 BFN´ers are manipulators, cowards, ruthless and has shifted their attention from Natalee on themselves. There are many other I liked, like Earl, Sindalle, Akband, Marebear, Rammstein and many more I can´t come up with the name right now.
I haven't been on the blogs much lately and it has been ages since I even read at BFN but I must check this out!
Are there really people there begging MITRAL VALVE to defend the U.S. 24/7??? WHY???
The European Union was created to avoid free and fair and open trade with the U.S. and give member nations an unfair advantage over us because they could not or did not want to compete on an open basis.
I for one just don't care whether or not anyone in Europe "likes us" because they have made it crystal clear they would destroy our economy in a heartbeat if they could. It was stated as posing a "direct challenge" to the "U.S. both economically and militarily" so I hardly think many Americans get up each morning and worry about how popular we are with people who have taken this as their official stance.
How's that working out for you EU'ers? Read where even that is not enough of an edge and the French have cheated and subsidized on the Airbus? Do the Dutch not mind paying more than their share of expenses to keep this protectionist policy in place? Do you think the others in Europe actually like the Dutch? That makes me laugh!
It doesn't matter if the EU supports our ME policies or not because they don't have the military to defend themselves let alone contribute anything to freedom for others. I guess pretending to oppose is better than admitting to not having anything to contribute, except for Great Britain who has gone above and beyond to stand by and assist us. If and when the time comes, I do hope we in this country remember that MV is the only one in all of Europe who still likes the U.S. and that we behave accordingly. I'll buy the marshmallows!
But as far as this American is concerned, I certainly don't want MV or anyone else defending my country 24/7. It's un-American, lol. Let the chips fall where they may! We can live with it if you can. ;-)
I wonder if it ever crosses the minds of those in the EU that maybe, just maybe, some of us don't especially like them, either. Nah, that couldn't be, could it! The universe revolves around Europe, right? We need their advice so we, too, can become equally irrelevant.
So MV, you don't have to defend us any more. We can take it and are totally accustomed to doing so. You might be surprised at how little it concerns many Americans, too. We didn't become the sole, remaining superpower by taking advice from failed countries and don't really need their defense or approval. And for that, I thank God and Wall Street every day. :-)
Amen to that! You have said it all. We didn't start this bloody war. We were attacked. The only mistake Bush made, IMO, he didn't bomb the hell out of Afganistan (the way Truman did in Japan) Another war we did not start, did not willingly get into, were attacked in Pearl Harbor! It's too bad we don't fight wars the way we used to, not the "politically correct way". Many of our young men would still be alive, alCaeda would be history, and the rest of the world would be on their knees thanking us.... for awhile, anyway. Til they, once again, forget, become jealous and start their criticism war all over again.
Afghanistan was not important for Bush enough to engage an all out war. This was a big mistake. I would have endorsed a total witch hunt on the Taliban and Al Qaida, to make them lame for a few decades. Instead of it, Bush choose to bet on the wrong horse, for personal interest and went after Saddam Hussein, a tyrant yes, but not a threat to the world. And guess what: Al Qaida is now all over Iraq, Jordan, Syria and Gaza. Thank you mr. Bush, for you incomplete war, your lack of vision and intelligence. In Israel we say: Le chaim!
I think you guys have the wrong blog, this isn't about what country is better or how stupididly biased any of you are. We're all human and we all have faults, we all stink just the same.
The wrong blog? Mike is having the time of his life with all this attention. lol.
Yeah, its the best attention he'll ever get.
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